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Re: Report from the Game Developers Conference
[quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="FABIO"][quote name="Fussbett"]), Forcing the customer to buy a new $300 console + $50 games for ever diminishing graphic/gameplay returns is exactly the problem I was talking about. We're not talking about bleeding edge "GOTTA HAVE THE NEWEST NO MATTER WHAT" people, we're talking about the normal people who make up the meaty 124% of the game buying public. [/quote] Except new games stop being released for a system 1-2 years after the next generation comes out. The only alternative to not buying a new console (not necessarily right when it comes out) every generation is to have console and PC gamers simply stop playing videogames period. Is that ever likely to happen? [/quote] Just like it did in 1984 when sales dropped so quickly and massively that entire companies went bankrupt? Don't explain console lifecycles to me again. Rest assured, this is a case of you misunderstanding me. No, there won't be an all out crash again for the reasons I already mentioned. But, if things stay on course (HINT: THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS SUB-THREAD) there could be a recession because people who bought a PSX and a PS2 could look at the PS3, see Duke Nukem Forever, Tekken 5 and Madden 2005 and say "Geez, is that really worth the money?". When a new system is unveiled, the games you currently own don't suddenly become any less fun. Well sure, that's a false statement for you and I, but not the norms. The salesclerk will point out how Duke Nukem Forever has naked strippers you can kill, and Tekken 5 has breakable environments and Madden 2005 features bump mapping, realtime grass blades, and pixel shading. But dude, Duke Nukem Forever seems a little like every other FPS I've ever played, and Madden 2004 is still totally fun, and Tekken 4 was kinda boring after a while, and isn't that pricetag a little high? And aren't I getting a little old for videogames anyway? And do I really need to invest in another video game system? And what's my financée going to say about me buying another video game system? And is the PS3 laser going to fail like it did on all my previous Sony systems? People do stop investing in video games sometimes, yes. I have three friends that stopped at the PSX for example. Naughty Dog's Jason Rubin presented the idea that even more of my friends will stop buying games if the attitudes in the industry towards graphics and gameplay continue as they are. [quote][quote] "...with games like EverQuest, The Sims, and GTA3 <font color="red"><b>we've only seen the very beginning of what can be done</b></font> in that respect." [/quote] What the hell revolutionary features has EverQuest and The Fucking Sims brought to the table? LEVELING UP? It a plotless RPG but because it comes with a built in chatroom, that makes it a breakthrough? Shit, Sierra's Shadows of Yserbius had them beat on that, likewise with Little Computer People and The Fucking Sims.[/quote] Listen, you rabid dog poster: I never said EQ and The Sims were revolutionary. I said they're examples of how people love (to buy!) sandbox games. I then went on to say that these games just hint at what sandbox games could turn into, meaning that they are primitive examples of how these gameplay ideas could develop. I did not say that they were first. Yes, Little Computer People is a sandbox game but seeing as, unlike The Sims, it doesn't occupy six slots of the top ten sellers list, I chose to leave it out of my examples. I also hear that black folk invented rock and roll. Thanks for the tips.[/quote]