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	[quote name="Senor Barborito"][quote name="motherhead"]<a href="http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2002/view/e_spkr/137">Hubbard</a> is now on board with Apple, I'd expect better BSD is coming.[/quote] Heh. Give me Theo de Raadt (OpenBSD head, arrogant, flamey, and incredibly competent SOB), Matt Dillon (FreeBSD VM genius, recently deposed), Jordan Hubbard (out of FreeBSD as of two years ago or so, see link), Daniel Hartmeier (the Almighty God who codes the increasingly stunning OpenBSD firewall), Niels Provos (security genius, kicked out of OpenBSD by Theo for unknown reasons this summer - now with NetBSD), DJ Bernstein (the most arrogant and disagreeable UNIX coder on the face of the Earth, and probably the foremost applied computer cryptography genius of our age possibly excepting Schneier - hates Theo passionately), the FreeBSD & OpenBSD teams (especially the FreeBSD SMP guys) and the KDE guys - five years from now people would be saying, "Linux what? Windows who? What the Hell is a 'Solaris?'" This is of course assuming that someone could ever get these people to work together. Bruce Perens is about the only person who would stand a chance in Hell off the top of my head, but I don't think God Almighty could get Theo & DJ (or Provos) into a room and have everybody walk back out alive. It's a pity, too - Provos was one of the smartest damned people on the OpenBSD team, Theo's the guy I trust with literally everything I invest productive time into (this site especially), and DJ not only coded one of the most secure DNS servers as well as one of the most secure (and popular) SMTP servers, but found the recent hole in all RSA-based security for sub-2048-bit encryption keys. Provos is about the only one of those three anybody would ever even think of calling 'amiable.' --SB[/quote]