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Re: "See, I'm really good a video games!"
[quote name="FABIO"]I'm wondering why Starcraft is being held up as everything wrong with RTS games. Mindless??? SC has YET to be matched for the sheer number of tactical options at your disposal. I played that game for 4 years and was constantly seeing new strategies discovered (I used the sunken colony rush BEFORE it was cool!). Broodwar managed to totally change the game by merely adding TWO UNITS to each side. One game me and a partner took down ten protoss carriers by using only a defiler, a science vessel, and a single valkyrie because while Rushy McRush was busy massing single unit types to send at us with the attack+move command, we were able to come up with a winning combo capable of taking out an entire 4000+ mineral armada using only 500 minerals worth of units. Another game had a zerg player doing nothing but cranking out hydralisks constantly from 5 hatcheries and blindly sending them at us in a never ending stream, exactly the same type of player that SB fears. I giggled as my two lurkers racked up 50 kills each while they sat under a dark swarm immune to the hydralisks' attacks. Could my opponent have worked around this? Sure, but he would have had to manuver queens through my patrolling scourage screen in order to broodling my lurkers, and like you said he was probably too busy mashing the build button to notice this or pull it off. There are a billion ways to fight off massive rush hordes with just a few units and some brains. You can cast mass hallucinations of archons (or better yet, ultralisks) and have your ranged units in the rear maul your opponent while he's busy whittling down the massive amount of hitpoints your illusions have. You can build a nydus canal inside his own creep since he's too budy clicking to notice. You play hit and run with a few plagues or psi storms. You can have a couple cloaked units chew up his force because he was thought he could get away with not having any detection. You can take out his siege tanks with queens and render his attack impotent. You can plant lurkers at various points to damage and slow him down. You can have ghosts lockdown his entire carrier group and tear their helpless asses apart. You can ensnare his melee units and dance circles around them. Should I go on? Sure there are a few times that no matter what amazing tactics or kill ratios you pull of your opponent will overwhelm you with sheer weight of numbers, but if that happens it means you sat back and let him take control of the map. You'd be surprised what pulling a few simple raids on such a person's expansions will do. I've played games where I thought I was fucked and about to be overrun but figured I'd take a few of his expansions with me before I went down. After blitzing through a few unguarded expansions with just a small number of units, the flood of enemy units attacking suddenly trickled to a halt. He was broke, game over. If SB is whining about these problems then he just plain sucks at starcraft. Don't go waving your SC cock around here. No, you are not good. No, you cannot hold your own. I haven't played in almost a year and I could still RIP YOU APART, anytime bitch*. I'll even limit myself to 90 supply points so you can't complain about that sheer numbers shit. If it makes you feel any better, I could tape my eyes into slants so could still have an excuse when you lose. The only complaint I have about RTS's is I wish they'd automate the resource gathering. Instead of building individual workers and ordering them around, can't I just have a single mobile gathering unit/building that automatically generates income whenever I place it next to some resources? *that SC Broodwar challenge goes out to all of you, I'd really like to find some opponents. The only reason I stopped playing was the fact that everyone on battle.net stopped using maps that weren't big game hunters, lost temple, or some horrific custom map some kid shat out. The only way we could lure people into our games was to call them 2ON2 NAKED MEDIC HACK and even then everyone would quit once they found out that the medics still had their clothes on. [/quote]