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[quote name="Senor Barborito"][quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="Senor Barborito"]Carmack will be remembered by history for pioneering commercial spaceflight. His work in computer graphics is simply extremely competent engineering of pre-existing concepts.[/quote] In a sea of crazy, this is the craziest thing you've ever said. Competent engineering of pre-existing concepts is what a good salaried programmer does. Carmack did more than that, not in the field of pure programming, but in single-handedly pushing the whole computer gaming industry forward. As for space flight, there are <A href="http://www.xprize.com/teams/teams.html" target="SPACE">several teams</a> currently ahead of Armadillo Aerospace's ragtag weekend engineers, there is a very big chance that they won't win the X-Prize. Secondly, I don't see how, when Carmack tries to make a rocket ship -- USING PRE-EXISTING SCIENCE -- this is worthy of respect while you hold his programming work to a higher standard.[/quote] It's probably because I don't understand rocket science, whereas despite my pisspoor coding failures I do understand at least basic concepts of what's going on in graphics. --SB[/quote]