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[quote name="Bodybag"][quote name="Zseni"] The war on Iraq is not just economic convenience, it's a witch hunt, a distraction from the rising danger that the Enron scandal briefly uncovered.[/quote] O_o Oh nigga, <i> I know you <b>didn't</i></b>. Kinda like Clinton bombing the brownies in '98 right around the time they found fatty lipstick on his cock. I'm not a huge fan of America's Favorite Cracker, but that was just coincidence. Hehe, it was even for the same reason: THEY JUST CAN'T SEEM TO COMPLY WITH U.N. RESOLUTIONS. Let's enforce them, shall we? Tactless, btw. [quote name="Zseni"]To me it smacks of our communism domino policy, or that time we were arming Iraq in order to contain Iran - and remember all the arming of Iran we did? [/quote] Boy howdy, do I! AND NOW IT COMES BACK TO HAUNT US. Again. Different decade, different problems. Blame Reagan, celebrate his affliction, move on. [quote name="Zseni"]Also about the reactionary fundamentalist government we installed in Afghanistan to beat the commies?[/quote] FUCK YEAH! Different decade....same stock response from me. We reap what we sow, and sometimes WE FUCK THEM THE FUCK UP. [quote name="Zseni"](They didn't tell us they were fundies at the time!)[/quote] NOW WE KNOW!!1! And knowing is half of the War on Terror. [quote name="Zseni"]Yeah, that didn't work out so good.[/quote] FOR THE RAGHEADS. [quote name="Zseni"]But for now I will stop just short of saying that the war is wrong. I can't say it's wrong without becoming an open hypocrite. So let's move on.[/quote] *whew* For a minute there I was wondering what you were getting at, but since the war is <i>not wrong</i>, let us instead discuss your alternative: [quote name="Zseni"]My Iraqi dream is that the US sends in all manner of transports and rescues the Iraqis from Iraq. You see, this is the other half of the exchange rate utilitarian quandry. Once rescued they are brought here, processed and given American IDs and schooled in our American Way Of Life - manifest destiny ho! - and screened so that most of the potential terrorists are detained further. The non-terrorists are worked into American society - perhaps we'll ship a few to our neighbors in the North or what have you, <b>but if we are really going to war to help the Iraqi people</b> then we were already prepared to make sacrifices. Saddam can remain in Baghdad surrounded by his Elite Republican Guard, ruler of a ghost nation. If UN inspectors can find all the weapons, how much more easily the people who can't be buried and need food? And the neighbors of Saddam, who have the most pressing interest in his good behavior - if they want to secure his territory, they can do so themselves, God knows we've armed them to the teeth. [/quote] Yeah, right on. Only we're not going in for that, it's just this nifty byproduct of removing a cruel dictator. I'm splitting hairs here; you're arguing angainst Dio and Ray's logic for why the war is OK, about the moral superiority and whatnot. If we really <i>could</i> do something this crazy, it might work to the same end, all while flipping a giant centrist bird to the EU. But there's about a hundred million reasons why this is logistically impossible, not the least of which being that it stands in stark violation of the Prime Directive. [quote name="Zseni"]What a chic coup! What a glorious pipe dream! Thank you, I do like it very much myself. My god you can't beat it for moral superiority, when you're talking about the kinds of morals people espouse[/quote] Oh, <i>you</i>. [quote name="Zseni"]I wonder always how much more difficult and expensive it would be than war. I do know one thing: it wouldn't benefit anybody with money.[/quote] Aha! That's just where you're wrong, silly-pants. Before any filthy sandnegroes set foot in our gooked-out Higgins2k3 Boats, they must first pump exactly 3 barrels of OIL apiece. You know, like gas money'n shit. [quote name="Zseni"]As for the logistics and what have you I'm sure it would be expensive and unwiedly; to be sure we have nothing built for it.[/quote] Oh we have <a href="http://the-tech.mit.edu/V113/N55/somalia.55w.html">stuff</a> built for it, all right. It's just <a href="http://us.imdb.com/Title?0265086">not muslim proof</a> yet. [/quote]