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[quote name="Ice Cream Jonsey"][quote name="The Happiness Engine"]<a href="http://www.rockinst.org/pdf/nys_government/2011-12-Giving_and_Getting.pdf">And what about New Orleans? I mean, I would NEVER get hit by a storm, but "those people", amiright? *locks car doors*</a>[/quote] If you chop the state in two, NYC doesn't magically get $11 billion or whatever unsourced amount of money they think will finally make that place the beautiful utopia we all know it could be if not for people six hours away dragging the sewers above ground. Everyone in the state contributes towards a budget and then that budget goes different places. A think a lot of people that live in the city are too stupid to understand that if 90% of the people live in a few square miles and the state itself is hundreds of miles across, well of course a state budget will be used for the thruway and so forth. The fact that natural disasters happen in New York City but not upstate is a "dumb" distinction, but it's as dumb as thinking receiving tax revenue makes your city parasitical. Everyone upstate has the good sense to not get involved in new stadium funding: [quote]With no further ado, some of the highlights of the revised charts: The Yankees' new stadium is now the most expensive ever even imagined, coming in at a staggering $2.3 billion. That includes its attendant parking garages and replacement parkland, but even the stadium construction budget alone is incredible, now standing at $1.56 billion. Of that, the public - city, state, and federal taxpayers - are now covering just shy of $1.2 billion, by far the largest stadium subsidy ever. In fact, even discounting the $417 million in property-tax breaks (if you're inclined to agree with Lieber), it's still the largest stadium subsidy ever. The Yankees, meanwhile, would be on the hook for just $670 million, after counting property-tax breaks. The Mets project is comparatively thrifty: a mere $830 million, though even that shatters the old record for priciest baseball park. Because it's cheaper, though, and the Mets demanded many of the same tax breaks as the Yankees, the team's total cost at the end of the day is astonishingly low: just $135 million, thanks to a panoply of givebacks that include property-tax breaks, parking-fee rebates, and revenue-sharing deductions courtesy of MLB. The rest is paid predominantly by - you guessed it - you the taxpayer, providing you're a taxpayer somewhere in the U.S. of A. Add 'em together and what do you got? Taxpayers will be paying $1.8 billion toward the new stadiums, while the teams will combine for just $805 million in costs. But it's not like the teams could afford to pay more or anything.[/quote] I'm sure people in Buffalo drive eight hours to catch a Mets game all the time, of course state funding should be used. ICJ[/quote]