Forum Overview :: Tansin A. Darcos's Alter Ego :: No, I don't know it was a lie

[quote name="Commander Tansin A. Darcos"][quote name="Eurotrash"]As for Steve Jobs, I base my ACCUSATION on these facts: - I have eyes (plural) - I have a shred of common sense (aHEM) I can only conclude that Steve Jobs was gay and liked it up the ass (preferrably bareback). Of course they had to keep a lid on it to protect the company, it's perfectly understandable.[/quote] It wasn't a lie. I saw it. My brother saw it. He even mentioned how some woman (some time later) said Hope could be sued by Chrysler over it. This was around 1979-1980, were you even <i>alive</i> more than 33 years ago? The joke bombed badly; it is quite possible Hope decided (before the issue even existed) the way people felt about jokes about the Oklahoma City Bombing or 9/11 immediately following it, that the incident was too raw at the time to joke about it, and just dropped the joke altogether. "Other than <i>that</i>, Mrs. Kennedy, how was your trip to Dallas?" You couldn't have done that joke probably before 1970 without getting punched in the nose. Hell, for years after it happened, if you mentioned you were from Dallas, you'd sometimes get ridiculed with "You killed our president!" I heard International House of Pancakes is studying the Oklahoma City Bombing to figure out how to make things pancake better. For the second anniversary of the September 11, 2001, any suggestions on a good memorial? How about a memorial building implosion? If you're groaning at those, you can understand that if a joke flops and it's specific to some event, a professional comedian might decide to toss them. Now, going back to this claim of yours that Steve Jobs died of AIDS, we need to look at the evidence. What you <i>believe</i>, and what you can <i>prove</i> may be two different things. Let's try this one: do you have knowledge and personal experience with someone you know that had the symptoms and characteristics of the type of pancreatic cancer and other infections that the published reports say Jobs died of? Second, ditto for dying of, say, Karsi's Sarcoma or whatever respiratory disease or diseases that AIDS patients usually have that produces the clear and obvious 'wasting away' effect of dying from AIDS? Third, what's the difference? For all we know, what he had and the typical conditions of AIDS might be similar. On the other hand, you could be right and some bright boy decided to claim what Jobs died of was something else that produces the same symptoms of AIDS in order to hide it. But I still want you to explain your evidence. Not what you believe, but what you can prove. I go through this a lot, being an agnostic, that the impetus is on those who claim that God exists, not on me to prove Her non-existence. Same thing, if you're claiming the existence, it's your job to prove God is of the male gender. But what do we know for certain about what conditions Jobs had? "It's not lupus. It's never lupus." [/quote]