Caltrops - Mad Men





	[quote name="up with pod people"][quote name="Fussbett"]Finally I don't get how societal roles mold the 'same' person, or what that means. You mean the societal roles of being a man or a woman in 1960-1962?[/quote] yes. if Betty were a man, she would react to situations and people a lot like Don does, I think. "that must be nice. needing some time, and just... taking it." so, you get to see two similar people under very restrictive, very different pressures and how they react to those and each other, and I find that interesting <i>so there</i>. "The real villain is the backwards ass caveman 1960s" per laudablepuss is a great observation, all man vs. environment, but there's a ton of 'vs. himself' and 'vs. others' as well. [quote name="Fussbett"][quote]to your question, I think of all the characters, the most "good" is Peggy. or Sal.[/quote] But but but how can they be good when Peggy had sex with an engaged/married man and hates/disowns her own bastard child, while Salvatore has roped in a young girl as his beard to ruin her life and live a lie with him? And Salvatore is gay.[/quote][/quote] SALVATORE IS GAY? but anyway what is your measure of good? Peggy has stumbled a lot, but aspired to better things, and giving that child up for adoption was the best thing she possible could have done. and there was an interesting interview with Sal's actor, where he made it really clear that he ensured the character really loved Kitty, as best he could. he doesn't know any other <i>way</i> to love a woman than non-sexually, but he loves her. Sal is a confused innocent (and a gay virgin no less, as they make clear in the restaurant attempted pickup scene). I don't think being good equals "never hurting anyone, ever."[/quote]